>SeedBox Lite is an open-source project provided for educational and personal use only. We do not endorse, promote, or facilitate copyright infringement, illegal streaming, or piracy in any form. This software is designed to be used with legal content only.
I always find legal disclaimers like this funny. It's like kindergarteners giving each other cootie shots. Just some magic words said out of some combination of tradition and hope that they might have some actual protective qualities. "Who cares if the words are objectively untrue? We have plausible deniability now that we said them!"
gouggoug 56 minutes ago [-]
> "Who cares if the words are objectively untrue? We have plausible deniability now that we said them!"
But they are not "objectively untrue". You can argue all day long that you don't believe the author are being truthful, it doesn't make it true.
edit: that being said, in juxtaposition with a copyrighted Marvel image, I could see it being used in court against the author to prove they were all along catering to piracy.
edit2: clearly, I'm not a lawyer
slg 19 minutes ago [-]
I’m sorry but it is objectively untrue that this software does not “facilitate copyright infringement, illegal streaming, or piracy in any form”. What is the purpose of this project if it is not to “facilitate” watching torrented material?
gouggoug 2 minutes ago [-]
Torrented material is not necessarily copyrighted material.
It's not unlawful to use bittorent.
mystifyingpoi 2 hours ago [-]
This is beautiful and hillarious. A disclaimer at the very bottom of the page who no one will ever notice. A huge colorful screenshot of the newest Marvel movie at the very top of the page everyone will see immediately.
Great.
NotPractical 26 minutes ago [-]
They've literally censored the pirated filename and the torrent hash. Begging to be sued.
I'm starting to regret supporting software freedom. /s
littlestymaar 5 minutes ago [-]
I have the exact same reaction when I read about “licenses” attached to LLM weights, especially the “you can't use that in the EU” as if it sufficed to comply with European regulations.
Dinux 1 hours ago [-]
While showing an image of Disney IP
tshaddox 38 minutes ago [-]
Wait until you see the terms of service documents your corporate lawyer will tell you that you need in the footer of your website.
progbits 4 hours ago [-]
Aren't these torrent clients bad for the swarm? Requesting chunks in sequence and probably not sticking around to seed. Do they at least seed while watching?
diggan 4 hours ago [-]
> Do they at least seed while watching?
Considering there is a file called "verify-no-uploads.js" ((https://github.com/hotheadhacker/seedbox-lite/blob/6a89d1974...)) in the repository, which contains "This script monitors network activity to ensure zero uploads", it seems to me like they're actively trying to just be leechers.
Seattle3503 3 hours ago [-]
Sometimes I think private trackers are too uptight about ratios and hit-and-run rules, then I see something like this.
TuringTest 2 hours ago [-]
Wouldn't an app like this stop working after a few uses?
As I understand, the protocol penalizes users that don't contribute to the upstream, although I never checked the details.
Or do this kind of app keep changing the identity to avoid getting downgraded? Does Stremio work like this too?
neckro23 2 hours ago [-]
Outside of a private tracker (which takes measures to keep random untracked peers from getting on the torrent), not really. Individual seeder clients can detect bad behavior like leeching and ban by IP, but each torrent is likely to have a different seeding pool.
So the penalty is mostly just on individual torrents. Of course, trying to pull something like this on a private tracker would get you banned real fast...
zolland 3 hours ago [-]
Using "Seedbox" in the name is very misleading then... I would have been excited to see a Stremio style alternative that actually downloads and seeds content for an extended period of time.
toomuchtodo 3 hours ago [-]
If you're not uploading, you're not infringing/pirating (in some jurisdictions).
owjofwjeofm 4 hours ago [-]
Isn’t piracy itself a form of leeching
craftkiller 56 minutes ago [-]
In this context the word "leeching" has a specific meaning. In bittorrent, "leeching" is downloading, "seeding" is uploading. With a normal torrent client, every download has you starting as a leecher (downloader) and becoming a seeder (uploader), but this client skips that 2nd part.
lawlessone 4 hours ago [-]
>Isn’t piracy itself a form of leeching
Actually i'm just collecting data to train an AI
MurkyLabs 4 hours ago [-]
well officers I see nothing illegal being done here, case closed
4 hours ago [-]
ddtaylor 3 hours ago [-]
This is awesome for some use cases, but the problem with having it replace my Jellyfin + qbittorrent + vpn setup is that Jellyfin is available on many smart TVs such as Roku or LG.
u8080 4 hours ago [-]
Leech client, add to blacklists.
password4321 3 hours ago [-]
Should be called "not-a-seedbox"
xaindume 3 hours ago [-]
Or "leechbox"
adithyassekhar 2 hours ago [-]
I'm looking through the frontend code, I mainly work with react and vite, same as this project.
It was refreshing to see a plain standard vite initial setup used as is but the way authentication is handled makes it feel like it's all AI generated. It does the standard authprovider, useauth setup all AI tools give with the same variable names
mystifyingpoi 2 hours ago [-]
It definitely is. No human would write a Dockerfile with absolutely useless comments like:
# Copy source code
COPY . .
or
# Expose port
EXPOSE 3001
Though, the question is... so what? It is open source. Who cares who/what wrote it.
craftkiller 51 minutes ago [-]
> No human would write a Dockerfile with absolutely useless comments like:
One small correction: no human with more than a passing familiarity with Dockerfiles would write those comments, But I've definitely seen humans learning Docker for the first time write useless comments almost exactly like that. Especially if their coworkers have given them a list of what they need the Dockerfile to do.
adithyassekhar 2 hours ago [-]
Maybe my message came a bit too negative, AI is fine. The scope of this app is incredible regardless.
I've only just began working on these things. Just curious to see what other methods people use to do auth than the same thing all tutorials do. Expected to learn something and got disappointed that's all.
gaowanliang 3 hours ago [-]
Over a decade ago, there was a software in China called "Kuaibo(快播, meaning 'Fast Playback')", which offered a similar service. But different from it, Kuaibo had its own server, which allowed users to stream torrent videos very quickly. Eventually, the company was shut down due to copyright and porn issues.
Eldt 1 hours ago [-]
I know of a few of these types of services operating in Europe presently
IceWreck 5 hours ago [-]
Does it download torrents on your server or web torrent on your browser? - the readme really doesn't say.
Imo downloading on the server is more useful. Web torrent is great but I don't think it's very practical in many places.
koakuma-chan 4 hours ago [-]
Why does this need a server? Isn't the point to be able to add a torrent and start watching immediately?
immibis 3 hours ago [-]
Browsers can't make torrent connections, or any others for that matter. Except for HTTP and WebRTC.
WebTorrent is a hack to run torrent protocol over WebRTC, but obviously it only connects to other WebTorrent programs and not to normal torrent programs. I think PeerTube uses it.
I always find legal disclaimers like this funny. It's like kindergarteners giving each other cootie shots. Just some magic words said out of some combination of tradition and hope that they might have some actual protective qualities. "Who cares if the words are objectively untrue? We have plausible deniability now that we said them!"
But they are not "objectively untrue". You can argue all day long that you don't believe the author are being truthful, it doesn't make it true.
edit: that being said, in juxtaposition with a copyrighted Marvel image, I could see it being used in court against the author to prove they were all along catering to piracy.
edit2: clearly, I'm not a lawyer
It's not unlawful to use bittorent.
Great.
I'm starting to regret supporting software freedom. /s
Considering there is a file called "verify-no-uploads.js" ((https://github.com/hotheadhacker/seedbox-lite/blob/6a89d1974...)) in the repository, which contains "This script monitors network activity to ensure zero uploads", it seems to me like they're actively trying to just be leechers.
As I understand, the protocol penalizes users that don't contribute to the upstream, although I never checked the details.
Or do this kind of app keep changing the identity to avoid getting downgraded? Does Stremio work like this too?
So the penalty is mostly just on individual torrents. Of course, trying to pull something like this on a private tracker would get you banned real fast...
Actually i'm just collecting data to train an AI
It was refreshing to see a plain standard vite initial setup used as is but the way authentication is handled makes it feel like it's all AI generated. It does the standard authprovider, useauth setup all AI tools give with the same variable names
One small correction: no human with more than a passing familiarity with Dockerfiles would write those comments, But I've definitely seen humans learning Docker for the first time write useless comments almost exactly like that. Especially if their coworkers have given them a list of what they need the Dockerfile to do.
I've only just began working on these things. Just curious to see what other methods people use to do auth than the same thing all tutorials do. Expected to learn something and got disappointed that's all.
Imo downloading on the server is more useful. Web torrent is great but I don't think it's very practical in many places.
WebTorrent is a hack to run torrent protocol over WebRTC, but obviously it only connects to other WebTorrent programs and not to normal torrent programs. I think PeerTube uses it.